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Cinderella
Cinderella

I decided to start this thread because we have been asking bilbot-the-hommit lots of question.

I hope that you don't mind, bilbot-the-hommit

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Detective Joseph Chen
Detective Joseph Chen

@Cinderella:
1) Do you respect this game at all?
2) Do you respect the creator of this game?

@Captain Black:
1) Did I ever cross your line in any way?
2) Did it ever come across your mind to use your original detective make post?

Cinderella
Cinderella

Joseph, yes, and yes. I am curious as to why you are asking me those questions when you know me well.

And no I don't know who Captain Black is. He has from the last time that I looked at his records never solved a case. It is someone who is hiding. Why don't they just come out and say who they are instead of hiding?

Let me say this Joseph. I have never had any problems with anything that you have done.

As a matter of fact, I don't have a problem with what anyone does, as long as they are able to do it.

If Ben wants something that is going on stopped that is up to Ben.
I like to help my agents in any way that I can.

Joseph, I don't think that you have to defend anything that you do. Nor does anyone else.

If Bilbot can use his bots then way to go. I am not capable of coming up with something like that.

The decisions about how the game is played is not up to me as I am not the Creator.

Cinderella
Cinderella

What is cheating? Is cheating in certain ways ok then cheating in other ways. For example:

Is it cheating when you are intelligent enough to design bots to help you out?

Is giving out the killers name in the Showdown cheating when you are the first one to find out, or is this just helping others out.

Is sharing passwords cheating when you have other's permission to use them.

Is feeding a 2nd detective feeding when you have already been through this before and just want to start a new detective?

Is hoarding all of your favors cheating while letting other members pick up the brunt of the treasure hunt?

Is being invited into an agency that is treasure hunting at the time cheating when you could do a favor case for them?

Is having spies in other agencies cheating?

Is using some tricks cheating when others don't know about them?

Is having a more than one detectives and lying about it cheating?


I would like to ask Joseph some questilons since he asked me some questions:

1) Do you respect this game at all?
2) Do you respect the creator of this game?

Cinderella
Cinderella

bilbot the first questions are directed to you, the last ones to Joseph.

Miinck
Miinck

On behalf of Joseph, I can tell he's respect to the game and the creator of the game is and has been the greatest I know. You don't know him at all, Cind.

Cinderella
Cinderella

Miinck, I don't know if you are Joseph or not. I asked Joseph a question not you.

bilbot-the-hommit
bilbot-the-hommit

Again: for me, cheating = breaking the rules. In modern civilizations, everything, not forbidden by a rule, is allowed.

With computers, it is even simpler: if you can do it, do it. It is the software programmer's duty to integrate the necessary rules to prevent unofficial play style.

Two examples:

-Although it would be great to have more than 3 favor cases a day, you can't play more than 3, as Ben controls this.

- For cases sharing, I think, that Ben intended it to help other detectives solve cases, they were unable to solve alone. I don't think, he foresaw, that case sharing would allow rushing young detectives. There is a simple way to avoid this: experience points go to the saver.

So we can discuss hours after hours, what is cheating or not. The answer lies in Ben's hands. If he doesn't feel like programming a rule to forbid such or such activity, well, it is not cheating (but creative playing) and why refrain?

Rose Catherine
Rose Catherine

Miinck is not Joseph, Cinderella.

As to your questions... if it is not forbidden in the rules, it is not cheating, from a highly technical standpoint. If you take in moral and ethical obligations to one's self and the community, well, I think most people can figure that out on their own.

bilbot-the-hommit
bilbot-the-hommit

A good example of cheating: sharing cases on the same IP address.

Ben explicitly disallows case sharing on the same IP address (in fact he probably meant by the same player). However you can eliminate this restriction by using a proxy. Doing so is cheating. But I don't care :)

However playing several detectives is not cheating. I feel, that not telling others is not very honest, but it is not cheating.

Cinderella
Cinderella

Thanks for answering my question bilbot. Now I am waiting for Joseph's answer.

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